Crazy for God: Doyle Davidson Disciple Dena Schlosser, Baby Mutilator & Killer, Found Working At Walmart
This is an unbelievably horrific story not recommended for the weak of heart. If you’re easily upset, turn to the next (or last) story before you get to the section on Dena Schlosser — but do read about Doyle Davidson.
First: Doyle Davidson is the self-proclaimed “Apostle” and “Prophet” of Water of Life Ministries in Plano, Texas. Since a picture in this case is worth a million words, take a look at what goes on at Water of Life:
At Patheos, Lorette C. Luzajic, in “Don’t Mess With Texas’s Doyle Davidson,” sums up Davidson as well as anyone can in mere words:
The founder of Water of Life Ministries in Plano, Texas, was “called” to plant a church after God told him Plano was possessed by the demonic spirit of Jezebel, whose evil seductions “forced” 850 godly men into fornication. A staple of his ministry has been the “loosing” of Jezebel demonesses from women parishioners. …
His sermons are peppered with the f-word, and include calling members of his flock “bitch,” “stupid,” and “mindless twits.” …
[W]hat he loves most is preaching against women, offering from his pulpit such devotional inspirations as “my wife is a slut” and, “Who told me she was a slut? God did.”
Said wife was never Doyle’s wife at all, but his secretary. He stayed married to Patti, but she had become infected with that darned Jezebel spirit. “God put a sword between us, and that was it.” Lisa Staton was an emotionally unstable young woman who sought refuge in her pastor.
Their 17 year long relationship ended with Doyle’s arrest. He’d gone to Lisa’s house to exorcise a devil. Her husband came home and found Doyle drunk, pinning Lisa down while choking her.
But Doyle simply posted the ‘facts’ online — quoting from the book of Acts. The Lord sent an earthquake to deal with the false arrest of Paul and Silas, who had merely been exorcising demons. “This is the way God deals with false arrests for casting a devil out of a woman.”
Doyle says Lisa and the police were lying sorcerers. (Lisa and her husband have gone into hiding.) …
Davidson was different from other televangelists — unpolished, voice as gravelly as a cement mixer, wisdom gleaned not from seminary but from his event-filled life. He preached that behind misfortune — bad weather, disease, job loss — were various demons, especially the spirit of Jezebel, named after the wife of King Ahab in the Old Testament. Wicked, seductive and supremely manipulative, Jezebel manifested herself in wives who refused to submit to their husbands and lodged in women’s reproductive organs, causing problems with childbirth.
At least until the fall of 2011, Davidson was using a chunk of his “ministry” website to write directly to “Lisa D,” and post writings he claims are hers. A few samples, from the page, “News for Lisa D”:
You stood before me at your house on
W—,I believe on April 22, 2005, and told me I was going to die. Well, I didn’t, and I won’t, but great troubles will come to your house, and only God can spare your life. I’m always available to talk to you when you want to call.
I am sure that you remember this date 09/09/04. You can be sure when I meet you I’ll remember your wicked deeds of that date and others.
God bless you,
You have been a very foolish woman. You have believed a foolish man and your foolish children and your foolish mother. I have removed your writings on my website to the archives.
Uh, no, he didn’t.
It appears there were earlier messages that have since been deleted; one quoted by Glenna Whitley in the Dallas Observer, dated 2005, read:
I told you God would deliver you into my hands shortly. Well he did just that. He knew what it would take to make you very hostile. Let me tell you something, you are my wife and JR will soon die, and you will die before I do. Now your threats do not bother me one bit. You do remember how you said certain people would die that are with me. Then darling you said I would die. You will come to my house and live with me in peace. I will deliver you from the Jezebel…
P.S. You are no match for me, but you are cute when you are stirred up.
(“JR” is Lisa Staton’s real husband.)
In “More Messages to Lisa, God Bless Her,” Patrick Williams of Dallas Observer captures a few more from 2006; e.g.:
On June 20, 2005, you sent me an email telling me you were no longer my wife in the Spirit. You also sent me another email telling me that JR deserved a good wife, and you were going to be the best wife you could be to him. To be a good wife you had to have sex with him. To have sex with him you would be committing adultery. Matthew 19:9 states, “And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.” Lisa, you have gone into sin and are committing adultery. According to the scripture and the mind of the Spirit, I am free to take a third wife. If the Lord directs me to take a third wife, I will obey and you will be left out and remain in sin.
I am sure you recall the summer of 2004, how you informed me that I was an unbelieving husband and you were a believing wife, and you were going to sanctify me. I am sure you remember saying that there was a kingdom in me and a kingdom in you, and the kingdom in me had to go. I am sure you remember after you challenged me and I accepted your challenge what kind of affliction and persecution came against me. After I posted the message on my web site last night, that because of your immorality I was free to take another wife, there has been a great overcoming in my life. I have no desire to have another wife. God gave you to me. My desire is clear and that is to set you free from the powers of the devil that has led you to do destructive things.
God Bless You,
I know that your spirit knew that this day would come and that your spirit would bear witness with the truth. It has been made clear to me by the Spirit of God that you got lifted up in pride and haughtiness. Your pride enabled Satan to lie to you and deceive you, and you believed the lies. …
Your pride in a small way made you a spectacle unto the world. If you would have humbled yourself as I told you to, this would have never happened. I spoke by the Spirit of God to you and told you what you needed to do, but you refused. You called me a rebellious and a lying prophet. You never considered that you had yielded your members as weapons of unrighteousness unto sin when you were speaking to me. I will not restate all of your sins, they have been declared earlier, but I will restate this: God gave you to me as my wife and you know that. You have confessed that publicly and certainly confessed it before God. I have kept as low a profile as I thought correct up to now. I did respond to your June 2005 email with a small warning when I said, Lisa you won’t get away with this. You obviously do not believe the authority that I have as an apostle and prophet of Jesus Christ, and that authority extends to you and many others throughout the world. …
God bless you,
… You are blinded by the beam that is in your eye, and you cannot see what God wants. You have chosen to live with a man that is an unbeliever, and you are yoked together with an unbeliever. God had mercy on you and gave you to me as my wife. You remain in bondage because of your unbelief and your favorite preachers’ lies. I command you to come home.
God bless you,
… Lisa, you know that your father and both of your grandfathers were involved in the Masonic Lodge. Their iniquities have been visited upon you, and God is leading me to bless you to turn you from those iniquities and to loose you from the bondages of witchcraft.
God bless you,
You lied to my wife. You can be sure that the same spear is pointing to you as is pointing to the other enemies of Israel. I purchased you a first class ticket to Israel on Continental Airlines. You told me you had no reason to go to Israel and you refused to go.
The expenses were all paid for by me. Your uncircumcised and unclean heart kept you from going. Isaiah 52:1.
God bless you,
Here are more from 2006, in which Davidson discusses his arrest (and calls Lisa’s husband a “wimp” and a “liar”) and issues what sounds to our ears like a threat (“Dear Lisa, You and those that have gathered around you are unruly, vain talkers, and deceivers and your mouths must be stopped.”).
The messages got even creepier and scarier by the day (sometimes by the hour); by late fall, 2006, they went like this:
In August 1987 you agreed to be my wife. You acknowledged that you were my wife, before God, in front of more than three witnesses…You walked with me for seventeen years and then used a municipal authority and the law of Moses to force me out of your life. When you agreed to be my wife you knew and the Metroplex… had been told repeatedly, that I was a prophet, apostle, and a teacher of Jesus Christ. There were no surprises… You see Lisa when you agreed to be my wife, you agreed to be the wife of an apostle… I do not know who you live with (male or female) and I do not know where you live, but whoever is with you will be removed, and then you will come home.
I love you.
See you at home,
On Sunday evening, God put it in my spirit to find you. … Perhaps you have heard that some three or four weeks ago when I was praying, God told me to put longhorn pictures in my upper room. Within a few days, I knew one of the pictures I was to use. It is called the “Strays”… A friend of mine was at Southfork and found the picture. Within an hour, I was at Southfork. The picture was matted, framed, and ready to take to my house. Likewise, someone will tell me where you are. God will deliver you back home. I want to tell you and all of your wicked friends that helped hide you, they have fallen into the hands of the living God.
I will see you soon.
This past Sunday morning there was a powerful demonstration of the Spirit. A woman was set free from a strong spirit of rebellion. Then weaker rebellious spirits came out of several. … As the spirit came out it was saying no, no, no, no, and it turned into a loud hissing sound. … I will continue to attack the gates of hell that has you bound and they will not prevail against me. God has made it plain to me that speaking to the spirit that has you bound through the internet is his will. You will be delivered and come home. God’s plans never fail.
I thank you for your personal letter to me. I do not believe any of your accusations contained in your letter against me are true, however I do not judge myself, the Lord is my judge…I would ask you to listen to the Friday broadcast which will be on the Internet about 1:00 p.m., and that is what God has to say about you and me. Don’t expect me to stop doing what I am doing.
Every day I am overcoming and learning more about where you live. As I told you before I would find you. I also want you to know I believe it is probable to find you and the liar together. If this is God in me you need to know what David did when he found his wife that had been taken captive. The people that took her captive were killed by the power of God.
Are you there? Are you there? Do you get it? Do you get it? It is the power of God that will kill my enemies. Then you will be free to come home.
I just want to give you something to cause you to sleep well. Your Drivers License states you live at 1709 W—. You know that is a lie. You have a P>O> Box in Richardson. Do you live in a house in Richardson? I will find out
To my wife Lisa
…I am getting close to where you live. I have known for sometime the general vicinity. Now I am closing in on your nest. …
…I am your husband ordered by God, You are to submit to me in all thing as unto the Lord. Ephesians 5. Not only are you commanded to do that, you will submit. You have no choice. I have the authority from Jesus to make you do that. Remember every knee should bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. I will find you and your evil spirits will go. There will not be any cops to call, no person to help you, no one to interfere with the power of God. Just Jesus, me and you. Your demons will go. I believe that is enough said. Except you will come home with me like a lost sheep.
In 2008, Robert Wilonsky noted: “Davidson’s new obsession: John, a child he is meant to have with Mrs. Staton.”
Davidson would later testify in court about a very specific demon that tried to convince him Lisa was not his wife: it was more than six feet tall and just four inches wide, with a tail.
Not that Lisa Staton sounds much more stable than Davidson does; regarding his writings (and rantings on TV) about her, Ms. Staton (according to Glenna Whitley) posted a message on the Internet: “Doyle is speaking by a witchcraft divination spirit.”
Now, on to the story of one of Davidson’s most devout disciples, Dena Schlosser — and here is where readers with more sensitive constitutions will want to turn away:
Dena Schlosser (born 1969) is a Plano, Texas woman who, on November 22, 2004, amputated the arms of her eleven-month-old daughter, Margaret, with a knife. Plano police responded to a 911 call made by concerned workers at a local day care center who had spoken to Schlosser earlier that day. The 911 operator testified that Schlosser confessed to her and that the gospel song, “He Touched Me” played in the background. When police arrived, they saw Schlosser covered in blood and calmly sitting holding the knife singing Christian hymns.
Schlosser had been investigated earlier that year by the Texas Child Protective Services, who had decided she did not pose a risk to her children. The baby died the following day; her other two daughters were not harmed.
Psychiatrist David Self testified that Schlosser told him that she had interpreted a television news story about a boy being mauled by a lion as a sign of the coming apocalypse and that she had heard God commanding her to remove her baby’s arm and then her own. The attack was later described as “religious frenzy”.
It was a toss-up between John and Dena as to who was more obsessed with Davidson’s teachings. Carolyn Thomas thought John took that head-of-the-household, submissive-wife stuff to the extreme, trying to keep Dena in ‘a little box.’ She tried to get Dena to stand up for herself, but Dena feared that the Jezebel spirit was living in her. …
[The day after Maggie's birth], Dena tried to slash her wrists with a pair of scissors. Her injuries weren’t serious. She later told a psychiatrist she wanted to prove her faith that God would heal her. …
Six days after Maggie’s birth Dena had run down the street screaming that an evil spirit was in the apartment as her 5-year-old daughter frantically pedaled after her on a bike. Police found Dena standing at the corner of Independence and West Park, shrieking, her body rigid. …
“When police arrived,” writes Glenna Whitley, “Dena had a dazed look in her eyes, and while being read her rights she smiled randomly, sometimes chanting, ‘praise God, thank you God.’ …”
Self determined that Dena Schlosser suffered from postpartum psychosis. She was found not guilty by reason of insanity and was committed to the North Texas State Hospital and ordered to stay there until she [was] deemed to no longer be a threat to herself or others. Coincidentally, she was a roommate of Andrea Yates, the Houston, Texas woman who had drowned her five children in a bathtub, which she says was done to protect them from Satan.
Roommates at the state hospital, that is — where, even more disturbingly, Schlosser and Yates became close friends. In a 2006 article, “Schlosser and Yates find solace in friendship,” Schlosser said of Yates: “She is almost my identical personality. I think we’ll be friends forever. I’ve only known her a short period of time, but I believe the feeling is mutual. She probably thinks that same thing.” Even more disturbing: Schlosser’s parents (named Macaulay) “support her new friendship but worry because Ms. Schlosser tends to over-identify with people and believe they are ‘just like me.’ ‘Dena takes on traits of people around her like a sponge,’ Mr. Macaulay said.” Meanwhile, Schlosser’s friendship with Yates gave “Ms. Schlosser someone to love.”
John Schlosser, Dena Schlosser’s husband, later filed for divorce. As part of the divorce settlement, Dena Schlosser was prohibited from having any contact with either her ex-husband or her daughters again.
On November 6, 2008, it was announced that Dena Schlosser would shortly be released into outpatient care. The order required her to see a psychiatrist once a week, take medication, be on physician-approved birth control, and not have any unsupervised contact with children.
In April 2010, it was reported that Dena Schlosser [had] been recommitted after firefighters from Richardson, Texas saw her walking on a street at 2:00 a.m. Her attorney, David Haynes, said that he felt the judge made the correct decision.
Dena Schlosser was briefly seen in the 2005 documentary, The God Who Wasn’t There, which is critical of Christianity. Schlosser is cited by atheist writer/director Brian Flemming, who was raised in a fundamentalist Christian home, as one of a series of people who committed and or incited others to commit crimes under the pretext of them being divinely inspired.
More at Wikipedia, with supporting links.
Which brings us to the latest news:
DALLAS — This past weekend, one Terrell Walmart shopper snapped a photo of a checkout cashier whose face she found familiar. Hours later, her suspicions were confirmed.
She had just encountered one of the most notorious characters in North Texas of the past decade: Dena Schlosser, the former Collin County mother who in 2004, used a knife to sever her 10-month-old daughter’s arms during a religious frenzy. She said God had told her to.
“I cut her arms off,” Schlosser told a police dispatcher in November 2004.
“You cut her arms off?” he asked.
“Mmmhmm,” she repeated. …
Late Monday, Walmart confirmed that Schlosser, going now by the name Laettner, was hired in June.
“Mrs. Laettner is no longer employed by the company,” said Lorenzo Lopez, a Walmart spokesman. …
The couple argued in the [church] parking lot. “I want to give the baby to Doyle,” Dena insisted. “I want to give the baby to God.” She was convinced Maggie was supposed to marry Doyle. John didn’t take it seriously. Later that day, according to a confidential CPS report obtained by the Morning News, John spanked Dena with a wooden spoon to curb her rebellion. …
On the morning of November 22, 2004, Dena had been reading the Bible, as she had nonstop for four or five days… A Bible verse from Matthew was reverberating in her mind. “If thy right hand offend thee, cut it off…”
After the arguments at church the day before, the Schlossers had gone to an electronics store, and Dena heard John say, “little arms, little arms” as he picked up 11-month-old Maggie to put her in a cart.
Little arms, little arms. Dena had to overcome the Jezebel spirit by making a new start. She was incomplete. Parts of herself and her daughter would combine to be whole. God would heal them; Doyle could marry Maggie then. The baby would be gone, the baby John hadn’t wanted, and John would be happy again.
More: “Mother who killed her child found working in area Walmart,” Brett Shipp and Teresa Woodard, WFAA, August 6, 2012
Our take: We have plenty of sympathy for the mentally ill (some of our best friends, etc.). We don’t think that people with mental illness, even severe mental illness, should be outcast, or prevented from being productive members of society.
But when the sufferer of mental illness turns violent, we are faced with the choice of being “correct” or keeping the rest of society safe. We don’t think it’s worth gambling on the promise of a few shrinks (who are not always right, and who, as shown in this case, should have known to lock up Dena Schlosser long before she sawed off her baby’s arms) that the sufferer will not become violent again.
Sure, Dena Schlosser should be allowed to earn a living and live as normal a life as possible. But she doesn’t need to do it where she comes into contact with children every day, or ever. She learned how to screen-print T-shirts and hats in the state hospital — there’s a fine idea for a career. There are also plenty of back-office jobs at Walmart (which, by the way, is not to blame for hiring her, but which did the right thing in firing her).
Yes, the blame for the torture-mutilation killing of helpless, defenseless, little Maggie Schlosser can and should be shouldered by many people and institutions — by the state of Texas, by the (ironically-named) Child “Protective” Services, and certainly by John Schlosser (who, in our opinion, is even more at fault for his daughter’s death than Rusty Yates was for the mass drowning of his own five children), and, yes, by Doyle Davidson.
We’re not cops, we’re not shrinks, and we’re not legislators who can change Texas law (which strikes us as pretty darned screwed up: Schlosser was out on the streets a mere four years after slicing up her baby, back in the psych ward two years after that, and working retail a mere two years after that). All we know is what we read, and what we think. And what we think is that Dena Schlosser showed signs, bigger than the Coke sign in Time Square, that she was severely mentally ill, and a danger to herself and to others. She is not blameless — but she is not solely to blame. Somebody needed to commit her before she killed her baby, and there were plenty of reasons to do so.
For the record, we don’t believe in the concept of “punishment” when it comes to crime. (Does punishment bring a dead baby back? Will it stop a psychotic woman from ever killing another baby?) We believe in the concept of rehabilitation for society’s worst criminals only theoretically, meaning: We hope someday psychotics like Richard Ramirez and Dennis Rader can be managed (“cured” is a silly word when discussing psychosis), but we don’t believe it’s possible. We are relieved when such people are locked up for life, not because we want to see “punishment” inflicted, but because a secure cell is the only sure way to protect society from these maniacs. (We are vehemently opposed to the death penalty, both morally and for many reasons grounded in cold, hard logic — but those reasons are far beyond the scope of our discussion here.)
Put another way: Be she crazy or “cured,” would you take your kid shopping at a store where a religiously-insane baby mutilator was allowed to run loose? (What if you lose your kid in the store? What if she snaps while she’s ringing up a box of Pampers and sees your infant in his stroller?) How about a religiously-insane baby-mutilator who, two years after the murder, had “no distinct memories of the day she calls 'the tragedy'”? How about a religiously-insane baby-mutilator for whom the conditions of her 2008 release included an order against having unsupervised contact with children? (It’s not lost on us that one of her meds is physician-supervised birth control.) How about if that religiously-insane baby-mutilator isn’t even allowed to have contact with her own children? How about if that religiously-insane baby-mutilator was thrown back in a state mental hospital as recently as 2010?
You can be as open-minded, sympathetic, and even empathic as you like — but do you really want to take that chance to prove what a superior, evolved human being you are?
Neither do we.
And, to anyone who wants to blast us for failing to understand the severity of postpartum depression, and how mental illness can be managed with medication, we say: 1) Schlosser’s last hospital stint was in 2010, well past the postpartum window; and 2) Are you going to volunteer to be the one who makes sure she takes her meds every day — and will you take responsibilty for her actions if she snaps… again?
Oh, and one more thing: Most women who suffer postpartum depression don’t hack off their babies’ arm in a “religious frenzy.”
More reading on Dena Schlosser:
• “Baby girl dies after having arms cut off,” AP, November 23, 2004
• “CPS: Mother gave hint before killing baby,” AP, November 24, 2004
• “Father of slain baby worried about wife,” AP, November 25, 2004 (“The minister of a woman who admitted killing her baby daughter by severing the child’s arms said Wednesday that her husband seemed emotionally stable but was searching for answers and concerned about how God will judge his wife. ‘He’s concerned, overall, about why this happened and what would happen to her and how does God view her right now,’ said Doyle Davidson, who leads a nondenominational church in suburban Plano that Dena and John Schlosser have attended with their children. …”)
• “Attorney in severed arms case looks into mom’s childhood disorder,” Lisa Falkenberg, AP, November 30, 2004
• “Schlosser indicted on capital murder charge,” Lisa Falkenberg, AP, December 03, 2004
• “Parents of mother who killed baby criticize pastor,” AP, December 5, 2004
• “Attorney asserts woman guided by Bible in killing,” AP, December 15, 2004
• “CPS wants slain infant’s sisters to remain in agency’s custody,” AP, January 9, 2005
• “Mother charged with severing baby’s arms stabbed herself,” AP, February 4, 2005
• “Psychologist says Schlosser didn’t do enough to protect slain daughter,” AP, February 11, 2005
• “Husband’s conduct questioned following wife’s mutilation of baby,” AP, February 12, 2005
• “Woman accused of cutting baby’s arms off not competent for trial,” Lisa Falkenberg, AP, February 14, 2005
• “Husband Testifies in Case of Woman Who Cut Off Baby’s Arms,” AP, February 14, 2006
• “Mom expected to die with baby, counselor says,” AP, February 17, 2006
• “Doctor: Woman says God wanted her to cut baby’s arms,” AP, February 20, 2006
• “Judge rules mistrial in capital murder case,” AP, February 26, 2006
• “Accused baby killer gets insanity verdict,” AP, April 8, 2006
• “Schlosser verdict sparks more debate over insanity defense,” AP, April 9, 2006
• “Mom ‘Euphoric’ Before Baby Died,” CBS News, February 11, 2009
• “Plano mother who cut baby’s arms off ordered back into state mental hospital,” Selwyn Crawford, Dallas Morning News, April 24, 2010
• “Killer mother back in mental hospital,” AP, April 25, 2010
• “A Missed Opportunity to Bring Change for Women Suffering From Postpartum Depression,” Susan S. Night, J.D., L.L.M.
Many blamed [Davidson's ] obsession with the demonic and use of violent images for Schlosser’s mental illness. That isn’t fair, though; the seeds of Dena’s insanity were sown early in her childhood, and a long string of failures by others — including her husband, psychiatrists and Child Protective Services — preceded Maggie’s horrific death.
But Davidson’s garbled gospel — and his insistence that all mental illness is caused by demons and cannot be cured by medication — gave Dena’s descent into madness shape and form. John and Dena Schlosser bought into his attitude toward psychotropic drugs. Why and the way she chose to kill Maggie were all mixed up in his unorthodox teachings.
More reading on Doyle Davidson:
• “Pastor blames demons, not mental illness in Plano mom’s trial,” Thomas Korosec, Houston Chronicle, February 16, 2006
• “Demons made mom butcher baby, says pastor,” IOL, February 16, 2006
• “Running With the Devil,” Patrick Williams, Dallas Observer, May 17, 2006
• “Doyle on the Brain,” Robert Wilonsky, Dallas Observer, May 19, 2006
• “Somebody Say Omen,” Letters, Dallas Observer, May 25, 2006
• “The Devil in Doyle,” Letters, Dallas Observer, June 1, 2006
• “The Word According to Doyle Davidson,” Paul Kix, D Magazine, June 1, 2006
• “What God Giveth…,” Robert Wilonsky, Dallas Observer, September 21, 2006
• “Doyle Davidson – Water of Life Church Plano Texas,” Apostasy Watch (archive)
And here’s one from a real bible-thumper called Terre Brown, who protests those “wicked” — wicked! she tells you! — “lies … about Doyle Davidson, me & my family and many others at Water of Life,” and states: “Our praises are executing vengeance and punishments upon people as described in Psalm 149!” Okey-dokey — oh, and no, we don’t know if she was one of those hip chicks waving tambourines around in the video at the beginning of this entry:
• “Deception by David Norris and Steve Lumbley has been Exposed,” Terre Brown, Facebook, February 14, 2010
See also Denton W. Hurley:
• “Proceedings Postponed Due to Ice Storm,” John Ford, Neosho Daily News, January 24, 2007 (via Bishop Accountability)
• “Trial Set for Wife of Deacon,” John Ford, Neosho Daily News, March 15, 2007 (via Bishop Accountability)
• “Davidson associate pleads guilty to child molestation,” Apostasy Watch, 2008
• “Davidson Settles Slander Suit,” Apostasy Watch, 2012
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